It's fascinating, but then history is and finding our ancestors had interesting lives is cool. Imagine a hundred years from now it'll be. "One of my ancestors got a Facebook ban for saying Donald trump wears a corset. I shit you not."
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bravo1102 wrote:
My ancestor was the younger son with few prospects sent to Virginia … we supported the crown and lost everything for it being exiled to Nova Scotia. There was a general forgiveness after the Constitution so the family returned. One went to found Willoughby Ohio.
On my mother's side though, one of grandfather's aunts was sent to Siberia for supporting the Austrians over the Russians in World War I.
Ain't genealogy fun?
yes it is. Brilliant family history there . A candidate for "Who Do You Think You Are" - except you already know B-)
Genejoke wrote:A high point for the ages! XD
It's fascinating, but then history is and finding our ancestors had interesting lives is cool. Imagine a hundred years from now it'll be. "One of my ancestors got a Facebook ban for saying Donald trump wears a corset. I shit you not."
We're probably better off making stuff up. They won't know the difference anyway. Most family histories are 50% myth and legend.
What, you think Superman's mum and dad really came from Krypton? Pshaw! His mum was a waitress in San Diego and his dad as a drunk sailor on shore leave… gone forever the next day. Poor lady couldn't raise him as a single mother in that day and age so she gave him up to her Aunt and Uncle out of state.
ozoneocean wrote:Or as my wife has discovered a whole pile of "truths" hidden in the family history.Genejoke wrote:A high point for the ages! XD
It's fascinating, but then history is and finding our ancestors had interesting lives is cool. Imagine a hundred years from now it'll be. "One of my ancestors got a Facebook ban for saying Donald trump wears a corset. I shit you not."
We're probably better off making stuff up. They won't know the difference anyway. Most family histories are 50% myth and legend.
Divorces, very short pregnancies if dated after the marriage. Jobs and residences that indicate all kinds of cohabitation and under the table employment.
You look at the records, letters and reports and when found they prove that rather than family legend only being 50% true, the legend only tells 50% of the whole story.
People aren't supposed to have done stuff like that back then!
Speaking of legends, I've noticed a huge change in the way we represent the past or create fantasy warriors:
There's a trend toward an imagined version of "realism" based on modern ideas of what that entails.
So boob armour or helmets with decoration are out the window, now we have drab colours, plain armour, pain unadorned weapons… Soldiers and warriors from all eras from Napoleonic to neolithic are depicted as plain, gritty and boring… even modern superheroes have to be "practical" now.
All this is based on modern myth because of our experience in things like WW2 which has zero application to the past.
In the past the fancier you were, the better the warrior. That was that. If you couldn't afford the fancy armour and weapons then you'd decorate them as best you could with fabric, feathers and fur. And if you couldn't afford that it'd be painted.
That directly applies to modern superheroes: if you have superpowers then WTF do you care about "practicality" in your outfit? You have SUPERPOWERS! What you want to do is compete with the other super-powered people and intimidate them as best you can.
Even for non-powered people like Batman, creating an intimidating impression is important in a world where those people exist.
Definitely something to be said for neat and professional as opposed to totally slovenly.
There was dress and there was campaign, but sometimes the full dress was put on for battle, because premodern battles were often like fancy dress balls. Uniform was often about being seen so a commander knew who was out there.
So a soldier would grunge his way through the March and dress up for battle.
Even hussars wore simple coats and caps for Marching and skirmishing and the braids and plumage came out for battle. Napoleon once saw a unit dressed in a plain campaign uniform and yelled at them saying. "I paid for the dress uniform and you will wear it!"
Grenadiers of the Guard wore simple bicorn hats for marching but before battle would at least put on the high bearskin for battle. One time they were rushed and the bicornes were simply thrown off a bridge never to be worn again. They were also just as well known for their marching uniform as their dress uniform. Their blue overcoat was famous and so well known that when naval troops joined the army as infantry their blue overcoats intimidated the enemy who thought he faced an entire army of guard infantry.
Napoleonic Wars offer lots of examples because of how well documented and researched they are. The American Civil War is also well researched and offers it's own examples of units who wore and preserved special impractical uniforms to maintain morale and/or to confer an elite status. Zouave? American Hussars? (Also called the "butterflies".)
bravo1102 wrote:Exactly so, that and more. The landsknechts being a fantastic example and very much the rule.
Definitely something to be said for neat and professional as opposed to totally slovenly.
There was dress and there was campaign, but sometimes the full dress was put on for battle, because premodern battles were often like fancy dress balls. Uniform was often about being seen so a commander knew who was out there.
So a soldier would grunge his way through the March and dress up for battle.
Even hussars wore simple coats and caps for Marching and skirmishing and the braids and plumage came out for battle. Napoleon once saw a unit dressed in a plain campaign uniform and yelled at them saying. "I paid for the dress uniform and you will wear it!"
Grenadiers of the Guard wore simple bicorn hats for marching but before battle would at least put on the high bearskin for battle. One time they were rushed and the bicornes were simply thrown off a bridge never to be worn again. They were also just as well known for their marching uniform as their dress uniform. Their blue overcoat was famous and so well known that when naval troops joined the army as infantry their blue overcoats intimidated the enemy who thought he faced an entire army of guard infantry.
Napoleonic Wars offer lots of examples because of how well documented and researched they are. The American Civil War is also well researched and offers it's own examples of units who wore and preserved special impractical uniforms to maintain morale and/or to confer an elite status. Zouave? American Hussars? (Also called the "butterflies".)
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One thing that gets my blood boiling is the absolute close-mindedness of the alternative health believers. Their minds are shut tighter than a steel drum, solely embracing ignorance and bullshit like homoeopathy, Chiropractic, acupuncture, trigger point therapy… you name it, these people jump at the chance to embrace made-up medicine, it doesn't even need an attractive or plausible narrative.
-Talk about the real causes of medical issues or how pills really work and they don't want to listen. Anecdotes and word of mouth are king with these morons.
I think the bullshit industry is growing because of the bad healthcare situation in the USA where real medicine is too expensive and regulatory loopholes allow the garbage and the con-artists to get through. The trouble is though that it spreads from there to the rest of the world.
Sometimes I wish real life were like the old cowboy films where they'd tar and feather the snake-oil salesmen and shysters who try and practise medicine without a licence are driven off. In reality though they're embraced. It sickens me.
How is it possible that Joe Biden has any actual supporters? I can't listen to that dude talk for more than 15 seconds before I get confused and tired. And with the creepy videos out there … horrendous.
I think media - and their masters - are trying to control the whole thing again.
Oy, I'm not even American and this next election is already killin' me.
But my hopes are with our American Ducks as always!
It's all name recognition this far out. Sleepy Joe is well remembered from the Obama administration and he is so likable and folksy.
I want to change my voter registration so I can vote in the Democratic primary. Twenty plus candidates and each is more interesting than the last.
Then there's AOC and Ilian Omar. It's all very entertaining and the government is working exactly like it's supposed to. Gotta love that US Constitution.
Yeah I guess the name recognition thing explains it - Biden benefits from that. And Bernie has that name recognition this time, too. The debates will see some people rise and some fall, once more people can hear from everybody.
I've heard a bit about the different primary voting registration laws, and the strangeness of it in some territories. Interesting! Like, in New York someone would have to register about six months/a year ahead of time to vote in a Democratic primary? Wacky!
I feel your pain. We have the joyous prospect of a Tory leadership contest for the summer. Class clown Boris Johnson could become our very own Trump and he's already facing a court case for distributing massive pork pies ( that's whopping great lies, for the benefit of none Brits).
ozoneocean wrote:Banes wrote:SAME! XD
I actually thought it was a literal pork pie distribution scandal for a minute there!
I live in the Soprano state. We just call it pork. Pork pies, damn lies, pay for play. Yeah, all that. 🙄
Call Me Tom wrote:
Okay so it's drummed our heads as artists that we need to listen to negative criticism and not listen to any ego stroking. But no one ever says when it's okay to listen to anything positive about any art you make. I've trained myself over the years to pick up on every negative people say about the stuff I draw. I don't know where I'm going with this guess I'm just bitching about being sh#t at drawing. Sorry.
As Willy Wonka once said, "Wait, hold that -' reverse it."
The exact opposite is what most artists are told. What an artist perceives and internalizes can be very different.
I was always praised to the sky, but somehow my best was never quite good enough. So I internalized that "never good enough"
I got to the point where I drew nothing for over fifteen years. I'd doodle but that was it.
Then I started doodling at work. Tried to.hide it but people saw it and were full of praise and I was full of self deprecation. Not good enough.
There's always something that someone has to latch unto so whatever I do is "not good enough."
I find a medium that I love and if my readers are to be believed; I really excel at. But it's photos and dolls. Meh.
So I come back with what Tantz_aerine calls "self flagellation"
That's what you're doing. You are projecting your opinion of your work onto others as it being awful and beating yourself up mercilessly when none of it is true or borne out by evidence and majority opinion.
I share my story at length so you can see others have been there but fought their way back.
Not quite good enough? So what?
Do it anyway. I'm doing my best and want to get better. Tear it apart. It's the only way I'll get better. Criticize me so that I can learn. It's not practice that makes you better but critique (there were studies. It's verifiably true)
I'm going to keep cheering you on because your self image is not borne out by evidence.
Hi. I'm Jeff Salty, artist/writer of Belle Starr.
I'm probably in the wrong place to get this fixed…but I hope maybe someone here can point me the right way:
I have messed up my password and cannot upload new material to my comic site.
When I try to access HELP it says I don't have permission.
What should I do?
jeff salty wrote:Sounds weird
Hi. I'm Jeff Salty, artist/writer of Belle Starr.
I'm probably in the wrong place to get this fixed…but I hope maybe someone here can point me the right way:
I have messed up my password and cannot upload new material to my comic site.
When I try to access HELP it says I don't have permission.
What should I do?
Hi Jeff
I changed your password to and emailed you a new one!
I tested your account and it uploads new comic pages fine :)
If you don't get the email please contact me on ozoneocean at yahoo dot com.
bravo1102 wrote:
So I come back with what Tantz_aerine calls "self flagellation"
That's what you're doing. You are projecting your opinion of your work onto others as it being awful and beating yourself up mercilessly when none of it is true or borne out by evidence and majority opinion.
To find out if you're really any good, answer this quick question:
IS YOUR WORK ANY GOOD?
1. MY WORK IS AMAZING!
2. QUITE GOOD ACTUALLY.
3. NOT GREAT BUT I'VE SEEN WORSE.
4. PRETTY BAD BUT I'M WORKING ON IT.
5. IT'S HIDEOUS, AN ABOMINATION I TELL YOU! WHY MUST THEY TORMENT ME SO?
HOW DID YOU ANSWER?
1. YOU SUCK.
2. NOBODY IS GOING TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE. I ENVY YOU.
3. SHAME ON YOU.
4. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU MADE IT!
5. YOU PLAYED IT LEFT HAND, BUT MADE IT TOO FAR. TALK TO A FRIEND.
Ironscarf wrote:bravo1102 wrote:
So I come back with what Tantz_aerine calls "self flagellation"
That's what you're doing. You are projecting your opinion of your work onto others as it being awful and beating yourself up mercilessly when none of it is true or borne out by evidence and majority opinion.
To find out if you're really any good, answer this quick question:
IS YOUR WORK ANY GOOD?
1. MY WORK IS AMAZING!
2. QUITE GOOD ACTUALLY.
3. NOT GREAT BUT I'VE SEEN WORSE.
4. PRETTY BAD BUT I'M WORKING ON IT.
5. IT'S HIDEOUS, AN ABOMINATION I TELL YOU! WHY MUST THEY TORMENT ME SO?
HOW DID YOU ANSWER?
1. YOU SUCK.
2. NOBODY IS GOING TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE. I ENVY YOU.
3. SHAME ON YOU.
4. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU MADE IT!
5. YOU PLAYED IT LEFT HAND, BUT MADE IT TOO FAR. TALK TO A FRIEND.
Oh that's so easy for you to say, you're so great and people line up around the block to tell you how great you are.
Come on Scarf, you gotta know the whole psychology of the negative self image.
Never good enough and everyone else gets showered with praise but not me. Nope, still come in second even with no competition.
Evidence. Show me evidence that totally validates the opinion. No over generalizations– specific. Is it one or two out of twenty? Really?
Is it a realistic expectation to please 100% of people all the time?
Reality testing.
Whole therapy program and it works.
bravo1102 wrote:
Come on Scarf, you gotta know the whole psychology of the negative self image.
For ten years or more I couldn't finish a page. I just kept starting over and over, disgusted with my own efforts. I still fall somewhere between 4/5 on the question above. Positive comments are motivation, but don't change how you see your work.
That said, where's this block you speak of?
Ironscarf wrote:Just imagine every person who comments on one of your pages queued up. That's the line around the block.bravo1102 wrote:
Come on Scarf, you gotta know the whole psychology of the negative self image.
For ten years or more I couldn't finish a page. I just kept starting over and over, disgusted with my own efforts. I still fall somewhere between 4/5 on the question above. Positive comments are motivation, but don't change how you see your work.
That said, where's this block you speak of?
Whereas my commenters wouldn't fill my wife's crossover SUV.
I didn't draw at all for ten years. Not even touching a pencil. Yet my sister kept buying me art supplies. The inks and paints dried out and the paper and canvas still remain blank.
But I was able to amass those thousand odd pages of comics such as they are. Cognitive behavioral therapy like I keep going over. I even had one of my therapists say I should start a support group because I'm so good at dispensing advice and giving useful hints.
But I won't because I'm sick and tired of people not paying attention to what I say as opposed to what they want to hear or read.
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