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Ugh, will you all stop with the "Lol he's a paedophile."
They found him innocent, I think that kinda proves he's innocent. Even so, it's really disrespectful.
;~; Good night, sweet prince.
Yeah, but there's no proof to say he did.Ugh, will you all stop with the "Lol he's a paedophile."
They found him innocent, I think that kinda proves he's innocent. Even so, it's really disrespectful.
;~; Good night, sweet prince.
That still doesn't mean he's innocent. Guilty people get away with being "innocent" and vise-versa.
As far as I'm concerned, his trial is a little fishy and his death is fake. Why? That unreleased album will still be released. Why? This is a scam, all to hype up his album. Maybe he thought no one would buy it, just like his recent album (not the 25th anniversary album). So he came up with this whole elaborate plan to make millions off of it. HIS DEATH IS A FRAUD!!!
A lot of famous men die suddenly like that. I suppose heart problems are still a major killer even now. Farah Fawcet died off cancer over a longer period… and that too is a fairly typical celeb death.
Not that there's anything unique about that, it just reminds us that we're all mortal.
In case anyone missed my edit to the OP, I'm going to delete any tasteless child molestation and/or pedo comments (for clarification, all of them are tasteless). We aren't 4chan or SA, I'd hope we can keep a thread like this at least somewhat respectful without drudging up that kind of thing.
Edit: It's ok to have a discussion involving it, just no 'the world's children breathe a little easier, RIP pedo' type of stuff
It's hard to bring MJ up without mentioning pedophiles, that title defines him almost as much as 'king of pop', despite crocty thinking that you need a guilty verdict to be one.No…Just if you're found innocent of a crime, chances are you're innocent.
I'm reminded of when the Crocodile Hunter died, and my mind just couldn't process it because, well… from my perspective, he wasn't a "real" person. In large part I feel the same way about Michael. Which is really strange, because I remember really liking Michael Jackson when I was younger. I remember finding a white hat, pretending it's a fedora, and trying to moonwalk. I never could, but if I tried it wearing socks on a linoleum floor, I thought it was close enough.
I guess this really doesn't hit me as hard because, while I never really perceived the Croc Hunter as a real person, I could understand everyone around him as a real person, and what he did as real actions. There were a lot of animals alive right now that wouldn't be if it wasn't for Steve Irwin. But Michael Jackson… his whole life was just too out there. Even when he started going bankrupt and got pulled back down to earth (one of the early signs that, despite his appearance, the Prince of Pop was human like the rest of us) I stil just saw him as that crazy cat looking thing that kept going to court for touching children. I didn't even see him as the artist who created all this great music and amazing music videos that I still listen to and watch these days. He's just some white guy who has the same name.
Despite him up and walking around, I guess in my mind Michael Jackson: the Michael Jackson that meant something to me, has been dead for years.
It doesn't really matter what resulted from any court or out of court proceedings. Once a person is accused in the public eye of being a pedophile, they're branded for life. Jackson had the misfortune to be an extremely well known figure (and a very eccentric one) so people are MORE than happy to believe he's guilty of terrible things regardless of any basis in fact or reality. When it comes to celebrities it seems people generally prefer to believe the worst.
Arguing about whether Jackson was or wasn't sexually interested in children is irrelevant only in the sense that no one's mind is going to be changed about it. I basically know nothing about it, so I try to withhold judgment. I think it's a shame that the guy is probably going to be remembered more for his weirdness and some terrible allegations than for the great music he made, charities he supported, etc. Which is most of the reason I am hoping we can keep the pedo stuff to a minimum.
As far as I'm concerned, his trial is a little fishy and his death is fake. Why? That unreleased album will still be released. Why? This is a scam, all to hype up his album. Maybe he thought no one would buy it, just like his recent album (not the 25th anniversary album). So he came up with this whole elaborate plan to make millions off of it. HIS DEATH IS A FRAUD!!!
MJ had the misfortune of being propelled into a larger than life status at a very young age, and was a very emotionally disturbed person perhaps because of that. But whatever. Whether you have respect for him or not, he was an incredibly influential and at time ground-breaking artist. It's a shame his career was tainted with the whole pedophile scandal; and that especially younger people remember him for that more than for his music. :(
But f**l all y'all haters. I'm saddened by his passing. It feels like the end of an era.
In case anyone missed my edit to the OP, I'm going to delete any tasteless child molestation and/or pedo comments (for clarification, all of them are tasteless). We aren't 4chan or SA, I'd hope we can keep a thread like this at least somewhat respectful without drudging up that kind of thing.
a brief clarification on the pedophile thing, not to drudge it up again (E! true hollywood story was on earlier today, and my parents were watching it)– the first lawsuit was settled out of court (which isn't an admission of pedophilia; it could just be an attempt to salvage his image with less scandal) and he won the second one.
When crazy stuff like this happens… I mean, I was never a huge MJ fan (although I used to do a great impression of him when I was five or so!!) but I'm saddened nonetheless. Especially since he was planning such a grand comeback. And also, vaguely knowing the sordid details about his abusive father, I always hoped against hope that MJ would stop being so crazy and just live like a normal guy.
But alas.
Oh, and Billie Jean is a great song. And the music video is so neat! it mesmerized me when I was a kid– the flashing tiles!!
It was strange watching him become a real life manga character…
I wanted to see what he looked like when he got old. :(
I loved his early stuff. With people like Michael Jackson they just become so famous and well known that they're like human landmarks on the global landscape- you have no relationship with them, you don't have to like them or dislike them, or care about them in the slightest, you are just aware of their existence out there (like a bright star haha), so when they wink out it's a but of a shock.
- like if a bright star suddenly disappeared from the sky, or a familiar landmark in your area just wasn't there anymore one day.
The guy was planning a comeback tour and everything. Oddly titled "This is it".
And to all those that are finding it good that he's dead because he "molestered" children, could you imagine just for ONE SECOND that he might not have done anything?
And if he didn't, imagine the torture that man must've gone through for all those years. Carrying the burden of never having a childhood combined with being threatened and beaten by his own father and people taking advantage of his fame to get to him through the media.
Whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty? Sounds like a lot of people online have never heard of it.
My sister and I sat up until three in the morning watching his body getting wheeled out of that helicopter both when it happened and about twelve times afterwards within the same hour. And then later on saw Germaine struggling to keep his composure while begging the press to let the family grieve in peace.
It's sickening… really sickening.
Wow. I must say, this news came as a surprise to me. The guy was only 50 for crying out loud. I hadn't heard of any health problems that he was facing.
There were in fact two trials. That's why so many people are convinced that he was a pedophile. The first time, he settled out of court to prevent the media circus that would form around the case but obviously that was a bad mistake since it made other people come out of the woodwork, saying: "He molested our child too! Can we have money as well?" The second trial is the one that played out to the end where he was found innocent. He was quirky all right. Preferred the accompany of children over men. It's creepy yes when you consider how old he was but I don't think his intentions were sexual in nature.They found him innocentNo they didn't, he settled it out of court with the family (i.e. he bribed them). Unless there was a second trail that I'm unaware of.
The King is dead…That title only belongs to one man. Michael is, at best, the prince of pop.
Wow. I must say, this news came as a surprise to me. The guy was only 50 for crying out loud. I hadn't heard of any health problems that he was facing.They say it was probably the drugs he was using to get in shape.
The King is dead…
That title only belongs to one man.I know- Robert Palmer. :(
Micheal is, at best, the prince of pop.No way! Prince is the Prince.
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