Thread "Rant, Moan and Rave - 2010 edition" in forum "Comic Talk and General Discussion *"

Posted at 3:10AM, Oct. 11, 2010

*sips coke*

Eat a bit of apple first, or a squeeze of lemonjuice? I don't know if that would work, but that stuff generally makes other things taste bad.
It's the habit that's the problem, you could replace your sweet drinks with tea or coffee.

…I drink tea and coffee constantly. @_@
There's only one spoon of sugar in it though so it's better.

But I'd look so much better I think, if I cut down to maybe like…185, 180. Right now I'm around 193 or something like that. But I'd like to possibly get abs, and just more definition. I'm thinking a lot of cardio.

Wow, you're much bigger than me 0_0

Muscles are a tricky thing, it's great to have a good shape and a bit of definition, but not too much or you look like beef-jerky-man. Also, great big beefy mesomorphic steroidfaced-men look …a bit awkward.

So I'd say it's best to get a good balance. Once you reach the look you want, stick with it and don't go too far or too extreme.

Posted at 4:10AM, Oct. 11, 2010

I recently swapped out all sugars for sweetners, I am very fussy on sweetener though most are terrible.

My coke etc is all diet/zero/max. haven't lost much weight though…

I'm 322lb where I am aiming for more like 220-240, but shifting the weight is really tricky as I suffer from chronic fatigue. As I have for nearly a decade and my weight has gradually increased. I don't get why the weight isn't shifting even a little bit, I walk several miles a day and changed my diet and still nothing. Need to step up the working out a bit though…

Posted at 4:10AM, Oct. 11, 2010

I don't get why the weight isn't shifting even a little bit

I know virtually nothing about this… but, it's my theory that once you have extra weight, it's really, really, really hard to move that.
Normal exercise just won't do it because all you're burning off is the the energy you consume daily as part of your normal sustenance- your body jealously hoards that fat like a miser with his savings.

The only real way to shift it is by going to extremes
-drastic reduction in food, like semi starvation -disastrous for your health even if it works. Worse for your health than having extra weight.
-A better way would be to eat just enough to sustain yourself and do a shitload of exercise, more than enough to burn through what you've consumed that day as well as cutting into your stored reserves.
…and cut out soft drinks completely.

Advice from a total noob here, but it's just something I've observed- shifting weight is hard, it's like overcoming inertia before you can move something heavy- you need to give it that extra omph before you can ever start to move it.

Posted at 5:10AM, Oct. 11, 2010

The difficult part for me is the exercise, I have always struggled with my weight but I used to be able to step up the exercise and shift it. Since getting glandular fever years back I never fully recovered and get fatigued really quickly, I once over did it ant the gym and spent the next two days barely able to stand.

Posted at 6:10AM, Oct. 11, 2010

I once over did it ant the gym and spent the next two days barely able to stand.

Haha, yeah- like I said, I'm a noob. :)

You probably have to start slowly and keep on increasing every day- every day a bit more and more, till you're able to run yourself at a high level without ending up dead for a week.
Which is hard and will take a long time and a lot of perseverance… but at least when you're finally able to get to that level you won't have to keep on increasing anymore and you'll eventually be able to ease off when you've reached your fitness goal.

Posted at 6:10AM, Oct. 11, 2010

@Genejoke
The trick is changing your metabolism, and metabolisms are not easy to change. The other part can be habits we may not realize we've developed. So here's what helps me.
(a) Do Not skip a meal! Do not fast! I learned this the hard way. It's pretty easy for me to eat very little, and I got into a Bad cycle with this. Reason: The "factory" needs continual fuel and will go into the wrong reserves when it's not being supplied.
(b) Within the first 30 to 60 mins on waking for the day, eat a serving of raw fruit. Fruit is one of the easiest foods for the body to digest, and it gets the "factory" pumping. If you can wait about 15 mins before having the rest of your breakfast it's even more effective
© However much you fill your plate, only put half of it down to begin with. However much you put on your fork, take about half on your fork. Etc. Put your fork down between bites and don't pick your fork up again until you've swallowed the previous bite. When you're done and you're still hungry, go ahead and get more. Reason: some times we don't realize how much we eat because we can eat pretty fast.
(d) It's true, the higher the fiber content, the fuller you'll feel, the harder the "factory" has to work, raising the metabolism. So as much as possible, stay away from white sugar products and white flour products ("highly-processed")
(e) To lose about 3 pounds in one week, don't drink anything but water for a week. Eat as you regularly eat, just don't drink the calories. Especially the booze — huge calories – remember: it's abstinence for only one week.

Re artificial sweeteners, aspartame is Death. Avoid it!!

If I sound like I'm Ms Healthy, that's a big nope, but my weight and those other stats (hdl/ldl, glucose, iron-level) are pretty good.

Posted at 7:10AM, Oct. 11, 2010

eat a serving of raw fruit. Fruit is one of the easiest foods for the body to digest

Too easy :(

They say the human digestive system isn't really optimal for fruit and I believe it, now. :(
-I used to have cake for my lunch every single day… and after a while I started to worry that it'd be bad for me, so I decided to quit "unhealthy" lunch for good and went on a 100% fruit lunch diet for about a year.
I thought that'd make me sooo healthy, but the trouble was that fruit just isn't filling so I'd still be dying of hunger and would have to snack big when I got home.
Fruit was better than cake in that I felt "fresh" after eating it though.

Worse than that though, after a while I started to get really bad digestive problems, and they kept getting worse. I had no idea what was causing it. I didn't suspect the fruit since that's meant to be the gold standard for healthy eating… I tried changing all the rest of my diet and nothing worked. I eventually had a brainwave and cut the fruit.
-Straight away my troubles ceased. Stomach behaved itself again, no acting up, no weird hunger problems… and all the rest >.<

So, yeah, fruit in moderation. We're not really able to digest fruit for long enough, it goes through us too fast compared to creatures that really have evolved to handle it well. I mainly stick to dried fruits now mostly.

I'd say fruit is fine as long as you're having it with other NON-fruit things as well :)

Posted at 7:10AM, Oct. 11, 2010

I'd say fruit is fine as long as you're having it with other NON-fruit things as well :)

Agreed. I hope I wasn't implying otherwise. Also, it does make a difference on the order that we eat the different foods. Part of the problem is that a lot of people eat fruit at the end of the meal when, for greater digestive benefit, it should be at the beginning.

—-(wildebeests eating fruit)

There's another thing with fruit, vegetables, high-fiber. Just like muscles need a work out and "science" now recommends crossword/suduko problems to stave off Alzheimer's, the internal organs need a workout, too. For individuals who don't regularly address these areas, there will be an initial bodily resistance, whether that's muscle cramps, headaches/eyestrain, or ~ poopiness.

Posted at 3:10PM, Oct. 11, 2010

Another easy way to lose weight is to pick up a physically active job. I used to weigh about 260. After a year and a half working on a logging crew as a teen, not changing my dietary habits or doing any exercise outside work, I had dropped over 30 pounds. You might think you walk several miles each day, but you could be very easily surprised to find that if you aren't doing something at work that's active that you're walking 2 miles or less a day and not burning off anywhere near the number of calories you think you are. The average human body is really designed to be doing way more than that every day. Same thing with eating, I became an illustrator with no money and found out how little I really actually need to eat in a day. I have an incredibly slow metabolism, so for me one or two decent sized meals a day is more than enough. The trick is to learn to eat only when you've become hungry.

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I just finished redesigning my portfolio, and now I'm curious as to how many other professional / semi-professional creative folks we have active on DD. At the moment, I can really only think of Oz and myself, but there has to be a few other people around. So as a result, I'm wondering if there's enough people here to create a portfolio thread to show those looking to become illustrators / graphic designers / etc., what a professional portfolio looks like. Should I maybe start this and just post mine and see if we can get anyone else like some of the Plat creators to share theirs later?

Posted at 6:10PM, Oct. 11, 2010

i've always been underweight, so on the totally opposite end of the spectrum, it's not easy to deal with either~
i can't wear form fitting things for fear of someone counting my ribs .__. and i eat PLENTY, lemmie tell ya~

i've heard it also helps to eat small meals throughout the day, like just nibble, no three giant meals~ that helps with lots of stomach problems as well :3

Exercise, a decent diet and good motivation will get you a lot of places ^^

Posted at 8:10PM, Oct. 11, 2010

but, it's my theory that once you have extra weight, it's really, really, really hard to move that.

That all depends.some people can drop weight like that *snap*. Others couldn't lose a pound to save their lives. It mostly depends on body composition. If you're mostly made of muscle, and really heavy, (like schwarzenegger muscley) You can lose weight by just stopping your work outs.
People with high body fat are hard to say "this is how to lose weight"

Eating healthy is definitely a start, and like oz said picking up workouts little by little will definitely help. Also, be prepared for setbacks. always. you may achieve your best ever workout this time, but next time you may do just as bad as when you started. Be aware that if your workouts centralize around lifting weights, that you may not lose weight, but you will lose fat. it may be kind of a 1 for 1 exchange. (not quite that much, but you will lose weight slower as you gain muscle, and lose fat)

Lba had another very good point at having a job that's very physical. sure you never go to the gym, but being a lumber jack, you don't have to.
——————————–(wildebeast talks about self)

I have my PAST scheduled for sunday night, but… my shoulder is killing me! the one i injured earlier this year. i'm afraid that the pain will set in before the test, and i'll fail. I think i'll wait to do upper body workouts until after. i'm already planning a week off once i finish.

Posted at 12:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

I was looking at diet pills today since i keep going nowhere with my 'diets' and that aerobics class only helped a little.

Apparently if you don't eat a low fat diet on alli you shit yourself o_o It's scary and genius at the same time. You cheat with that blueberry muffin between breaks and you get a friendly reminder that you already had a starbucks mocha latte that morning..in your pants.

But i got hydroxycut because its cheap and i got the impression you had to be actually fat/not some lazy ass with a freshman 15 to use the other ones. Will post results and liver damage.

Posted at 12:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

But i got hydroxycut because its cheap and i got the impression you had to be actually fat/not some lazy ass with a freshman 15 to use the other ones. Will post results and liver damage.

i tried that after i gained a lot of weight from depression and turning 21 at the same time.

it turned my pee neon green, and made me feel sick afterwards. didn't help in the weight department.

Posted at 3:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

for fear of someone counting my ribs

I saw those. Nasty XP
Same with me. The only time in my whole life I've ever been able to gain weight is now, through a lot of exercise. Being a Mr Skelington is just s bad for your health, looks and self esteem as anything else.

but, it's my theory that once you have extra weight, it's really, really, really hard to move that.
That all depends.some people can drop weight like that *snap*. Others couldn't lose a pound to save their lives. It mostly depends on body composition. If you're mostly made of muscle, and really heavy, (like schwarzenegger muscley) You can lose weight by just stopping your work outs.
People with high body fat are hard to say "this is how to lose weight"

What I meant by "weight" was a euphemism for fat- the excess weight that you don't want.
So we're agreed really :)

Anyway, muscles can look disgusting…

Better to gain more fat than end up looking like that nightmare figure…

Posted at 3:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

Anyway, muscles can look disgusting…

Better to gain more fat than end up looking like that nightmare figure…

Ew it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Auschwitz edition.

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Glee has the best dialog ever, holy gods do i see the appeal of this show now. I hate how the show puts the teacher in a positive light when he does some seriously fucked up shit, only to turn around and be like 'i lerned mi lesson thru music kids ^_^' and then do it again 4 episodes later.

Posted at 3:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

But I'd look so much better I think, if I cut down to maybe like…185, 180. Right now I'm around 193 or something like that. But I'd like to possibly get abs, and just more definition. I'm thinking a lot of cardio.
Wow, you're much bigger than me 0_0

Muscles are a tricky thing, it's great to have a good shape and a bit of definition, but not too much or you look like beef-jerky-man. Also, great big beefy mesomorphic steroidfaced-men look …a bit awkward.

So I'd say it's best to get a good balance. Once you reach the look you want, stick with it and don't go too far or too extreme.

Haha, yeah. I'm kind of big (not really fat, but I'm not quite pure muscle) My shape is pretty good, as my upper body (shoulders, back, biceps/triceps) are all quite big, especially for my age and whatnot. My core just isn't all that great (which I'm working on), and the diet thing is still kind of difficult, because I'm still eating like I was when I was bulking. Which is baaad. D:

Also, the picture you posted, guy has almost no muscle mass. If he actually had some, he probably wouldn't look as nasty. Or maybe if he ate. I think that having THAT little of body fat is gross. I don't really have any frame of reference for what I'm going for, but it'll be attractive~

ohgodtesttodayinalgebra2ffffffffff.

Posted at 5:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

Anyway, muscles can look disgusting…

Better to gain more fat than end up looking like that nightmare figure…

Wasnt he in die hard 3?

Posted at 5:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

Wasnt he in die hard 3?

You seriously think skinned-chickenwing-man looks like Jeremy Irons? O_O

Posted at 6:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

Thank you university. Thank you for dumping all the assignments in the same week, only to make me feel inadequate… thank you.

Posted at 6:10AM, Oct. 12, 2010

I was looking at diet pills today since i keep going nowhere with my 'diets' and that aerobics class only helped a little.

Apparently if you don't eat a low fat diet on alli you shit yourself o_o It's scary and genius at the same time. You cheat with that blueberry muffin between breaks and you get a friendly reminder that you already had a starbucks mocha latte that morning..in your pants.

But i got hydroxycut because its cheap and i got the impression you had to be actually fat/not some lazy ass with a freshman 15 to use the other ones. Will post results and liver damage.

I heard these diet pills result in anal leakage, which conjures up a horrid image of brown stained underwear.

The comment about having a physical job… very true I used to that myself.
I just can't manage a physically demanding job anymore, I am stuck in a vicious circle and desperately need to break it.

Long term illness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome led to the weight gain, the weight has added problems and I do not know if the original problem is still present. I suffer from sleep apnoea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea and have treatment for that, which is a more recent development. I feel better for getting it but not better enough as yet, I am hoping my latest efforts prove more successful than others.
The question for me is whether I still suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome, my doctor thinks it is possible I may have recovered from it only to have it replaced by sleep apnoea from the weight gain.
If that is true then once I break the cycle and shift enough weight I could get a new lease of life, which would be fantastic.

The stuff said about eating fruit… I had such problems with that too, I guess I need to just persevere a bit.

Posted at 12:10PM, Oct. 12, 2010

At least it sounds like you have the choice about high fiber and fruit and aren't under doctor's orders to take 4-6 fiber supplements a day and to avoid constipation at all costs
I have to keep a few foods around guranteed to open the sluices just in case. :(

bad pun alert: I have to be a "regular" guy.

— (Wildebeasts being regular)

So it rained yesterday which means today I'm dizzy and nauseous and having trouble sleeping. My thoughts are racing all over the place and I seem to have misplaced my "STOP" sign. And I really should get back to writing. That also relieves the racing thoughts, but instead I torture myself by sticking tiny decals on my nearly completed airplane miniatures. Fifty-five kits built this year.

Posted at 12:10PM, Oct. 12, 2010

Unfortunately, weight loss, like a lot of other things we all tend to want very badly, only happens with a large dose of pain involved. No matter what, when it comes to weight loss, you're going to be a bit uncomfortable. You're going to be hungry and tired, and it's just going to suck for a while in general.

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I'm going to take it as a "not interested" on the portfolio sharing/review thread question. I kinda figured most people wouldn't be interested since it's DD and everyone here is a hobbyist, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Posted at 1:10PM, Oct. 12, 2010

I will eventually write a good song that is not The Rain Song.

That is a fantastic song. Nothing is better.

I cannot bring myself to join deviantart groups for some reason. I've been looking for a comic club type thing to submit to forever, but whenever I find one it's either totally underdeveloped or all the best DA artists are members of it and I feel totally unworthy. I need to find ways to get more readers though.My introversion is killing this comic, argghhh.

Being a broke teenager with no job isn't helping in the advertising field. Guess all I can do is keep improving until I do get around to making some dough.

I used to submit stuff to a comic thing on DA. But then they started actually having requirements for submitting. Also, the method for submitting is extremely tedious.

But yeah, that whole master DA artist community group problem is something I went through too. But you shouldn't, you are pretty great. You're one of those people who I see in the groups.

Posted at 3:10PM, Oct. 12, 2010

I'm looking at halloween costumes now to take my mind off the fact that i'm putting off yet another essay. They're so pricey now, freaking wal-mart is selling a darth vader costume that is 700$ o_O. And wow thanks wal-mart, i always wanted to be a prostitute from avatar:

Posted at 6:10PM, Oct. 12, 2010

lolerskates XD nice Skullbie~

ok…so i have to stay with my parents for a while (aka walking on eggeshells)
soooo i dont have to stay at my grandmas with her asshat of a roommate~ the lesser of two evils? i have NO idea -__- ;;;

But we'll see how this goes for now…

the sucky thing about my parents is the lack of scanner …o__o i can draw, but not show. AUGH…

oh well, STUFF is in the works, maybe i'll just write for now =w=