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Gods, plural. Bit of a giveaway. Quite amusing though.

You'd think so, but apparently not according to these people… well… 3 people. :/

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And I can't claim that this squabble about DD > tD > keeping content provider control > etc, etc., is all that has brought on a certain melancholy for me.


but yes, life is about change. and weathering the storms.

I'm known for weathering storms.

It's that melancholy that made me start an account over there. All the crying, bitching and moaning over here got to me because I believe in Fuck it drive on

I'm also testing the water someplace else. I am not jumping ship. I have great hopes for the future here. But I also want to expand my horizons beyond just one forum.

All this talk of community sends up red flags for me. You dare to question the sense of community? APOSTATE! Ostracize the rat bastard!

If I took my toys and went someplace else I literally would be taking toys with me. lol!

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I just found out people think my comic is Christian related because its called Gods Almighty, and won't read it because they believe that. D:
Clever editing effects with the "no" there ^^

I think it's because Americans are typically a lot more sensitive about religion than us. Whereas most Aussies couldn't give a stuff either way, anything with "god" in it or anything vaguely biblical is more significant to many of them (not all, obviously), weather they're pro or anti religion.

That would make a cool topic for the D&D thread, people love to argue about that sort of thing, but I wonder how you'd frame it…?
"Are some cultures more sensitive about religion?"
"Are you really an atheist if you still worry about the religion of others?"

It's funny. I remember reading that the classic song Heaven (Must Be There) by the Aussie band Eurogliders got a really weird reception when they toured in the states. It was really popular with religious radio stations and some people were really put off by it because they thought it was about Christian themes, when in reality they were just using words like "Heaven" and "Eden" as convenient metaphors, as you'd expect.

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If I still had the time to update my comic frequently, I'd move my main comic site to a self hosted one and mirror on DD again, just because DD is a bit draggy and slow for readers at the moment if they want to go through your archive. Plus, I'd want full control over every aspect.
But I'd still hang around the forums of course.

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I'd post more on the forums, but I have crushingly low self esteeme and can never think of anything to say that is remotely clever or thought provoking in anyway.
It's silly that you have low self esteem. You're good at art, you have a sense of humor, and you're infuriatingly pretty*. Quit ruining low self esteem for those charmless few of us who actually require it. -shakes fist-

Maaaan, I can't shake this stupid nonsensical mindset. "I'm feeling a little morose, so I'll stay up all night long isolating myself. That'll perk me right up!" IT'S NOT WORKING. D:

*I say in the absolute least creepy way imaginable

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I just found out people think my comic is Christian related because its called Gods Almighty, and won't read it because they believe that. D:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

ITS JUST A NAME! ITS JUST A NAAAAMMMMEEEE!!!!!!

After reading about it a bit, I find it hard to believe people would think that. I guess for them the cover on the book matters more than what's inside.

heh… my personal programming lessons have advanced a bit. I can read/write files and create an options menu for the game I've got planned. Too bad I can no longer use the name "Drunkduck Shooters" since the name is about to go. Maybe I can call it the "Webcomical Shooter" since it's supposed to parody the various webcomics out there (imagine Pinky T.A. and her flame rifle setting fires to enemies in Megatokyo for instance). Gotta figure out how I'm going to create the music for the game. Each character with their own theme song when they fly in (the same way Parodius does it). I could put in a girl who has two diefic imaginary friends as a playable character, but she may not last long…

And if you're curious as to what kind of game I'm trying to learn to make, well…

This, this, or maybe even THIS!!!

Programming isn't as easy as it looks… I keep finding my brain smoking during my learning sessions.

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*I say in the absolute least creepy way imaginable

It's bad that you feel you have to put that, but probably sensible.

I don't think it's so necessary on this forum but some it would definitely be needed.

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[quote=Ochitsukanai
]It's silly that you have low self esteem. You're good at art, you have a sense of humor, and you're infuriatingly pretty*. Quit ruining low self esteem for those charmless few of us who actually require it. -shakes fist-


Why thankyou, but I was merely pointing out that was the reason for my lack of forum posting most of the time. :3


After reading about it a bit, I find it hard to believe people would think that. I guess for them the cover on the book matters more than what's inside.

Yeah I know, but in their defence, they were 15. So it really shouldn't be a problem, though now I'm wondering if anyone else does think that? Despite the name being plural and the story being very viking related…

Clever editing effects with the "no" there ^^

It took me several minutes, but I felt it was needed, I'm glad it wasappriciated. :D. But they people who mentioned it were aussie. Some girls in the year below me who saw me drawing a page. Though that is a really intresting topic, I demand a forum topic be made about it. Forthwith!

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I think it's because Americans are typically a lot more sensitive about religion than us. Whereas most Aussies couldn't give a stuff either way, anything with "god" in it or anything vaguely biblical is more significant to many of them (not all, obviously), weather they're pro or anti religion.

That's because Australia is hell. Why do you think we sent all you convicts there in the first place? :)

Obviously the smiley face means that was a joke.


Would the topic idea not just be another religion versus thread? How about a comic discussion one about religious or political content being off putting?

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Kyo… that name is familiar. Isn't he the one that tried to hack DD all those years ago? The script kiddie?
I laughed.

And then I got wary O.O
If it IS the same guy, I wouldn't worry too much, but I'd be careful to use a unique password for the account there and not enter too much personal info or anything.

Just for the record, Kyo hacked this site to point up the lack of security here - and because he could. If you're trying to suggest he's out to steal our bank details, is starting a webcomic host really the most effective way to do it?

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Bountiful Thursday everyone! I am contributing to the community! I feel so fuzzy.

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Would the topic idea not just be another religion versus thread? How about a comic discussion one about religious or political content being off putting?
Maybe, I dunno. I suppose your way is probably better. ^_^

Man, I'd love a relion Vs thread to be: " religion is bad/religion is good -Vs- It doesn't really matter, just stfu." :)

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Just for the record, Kyo hacked this site to point up the lack of security here - and because he could. If you're trying to suggest he's out to steal our bank details, is starting a webcomic host really the most effective way to do it?
lol!
Wtf? It WAS the same guy?

No, I'm not suggesting that Ironscarf, I'm saying that a person that does what the person who attacked DD did can not be fully trusted.
And "testing security" is a lie. The stuff that he was trying to do on the site was really pretty f-ing bad. If there had have been credit card numbers you can be sure he'd have tried to get 'em. ;)
I'll leave it at that.
Interesting that you're coming out with that- Has he actually tried to justify that behaviour? o_O

We have had many genuine users test our security before who have been very helpful. Believe me, there is a gigantic difference between a script-kiddie attack and people who are genuinely out to help.

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If that's the case, it sounds like he was covering his tracks by saying he was testing security… Though thanks again for the heads up, mind you, I wasn't planning on randomly handing out personal details anyway. Just shows you gottsta be careful these days, ain't what they used ter be.

And lol, Genejoke, isn't England where all those nasty convicts came from in the first place? ;)

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Man, I'd love a relion Vs thread to be: " religion is bad/religion is good -Vs- It doesn't really matter, just stfu."

Would never work but it would be funny, the problem is it matters deeply to some people.

Bountiful Thursday everyone! I am contributing to the community! I feel so fuzzy.

Go Skreem.


As in way to go not chuff off.

And lol, Genejoke, isn't England where all those nasty convicts came from in the first place?

No not at all… we rewrote history to make it clear they didn't. We need you sources so we can execute them.

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Would never work but it would be funny, the problem is it matters deeply to some people.

I think it'd start off all right, like with most of those related threads, but in the end its just a lot of angry caps lock sentences and people calling other people Nazis, which then immidiately activates Godwin's law and ends the thread.

Why can't people just have a good natured debate about a subject without resorting to yelling and carrying on as hilarious as it is to watch sometimes?

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I agree that DD is still a bit better. Provided the community bounces back from this. Right now it's a LOT more vacant here than usual in the forums.

How about those that want the forums to bounce back make a concerted effort to breath some life back into it? It's not so easy when people aren't posting but the more activity there is the more newbies are likely to get involved.
With the new site looming it's more likely that we'll have to wait for it to be implemented and see how good/bad it is really going to be. The Duck is going to have to build back it's user's confidence before most people will go out of their way to make it active again.

And how long ago was the site hack? IMO you can't fully condemn a person for something they did ages ago when they were a lot younger. When I was an admin of MugenFightersGuild I did some shady things to the opposition as well. It felt justified in my mind. They had done similar things. And the environment was a LOT different than here. Mostly kids trying to get noticed. It's easy to get caught up in it when you are younger.

Once you are in that environment a while you start to see how silly it is as you grow up. Not saying that's exactly what happened with Kyo and that he DID grow up. I have no idea. But I've seen it happen to several people. And classify myself as an example of it.

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And "testing security" is a lie. The stuff that he was trying to do on the site was really pretty f-ing bad. If there had have been credit card numbers you can be sure he'd have tried to get 'em.
I'll leave it at that.
Interesting that you're coming out with that- Has he actually tried to justify that behaviour? o_O

Sorry, I forgot this was St. Spurious's Day, where we all exchange playful character assasinations and imply criminal intent before leaving it at that!

Actually I never said "testing security" so you're misquoting me there. I said he was pointing up security issues, which is true, but doing it to take the piss - because he was bored on his school hols. I see what you're trying to do there though and no doubt it will have the desired effect…

If that's the case, it sounds like he was covering his tracks by saying he was testing security…

…and there y'go - straight in the back of the net!


Interesting that you're coming out with that- Has he actually tried to justify that behaviour? o_O

The only thing he's ever said on the subject is that he was young and foolish at the time. (oh - and he made up for the millions he failed to scam from DD by supplying Obama with a convincing birth certificate for no small renumeration!).

Let's not fall out over this though - I'll stick with my "script kiddie" and you stick with the coding impressario who thinks we're all trying to destroy The Duck with our malicious custom comic layouts! *twitch*

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Why can't people just have a good natured debate about a subject without resorting to yelling and carrying on as hilarious as it is to watch sometimes?
Look in the D&D thread. There are a ot of debates that enedd up amicably :)

Not saying that's exactly what happened with Kyo and that he DID grow up. I have no idea. But I've seen it happen to several people. And classify myself as an example of it.
His motivation was was vandalisation and destruction, with quite a lot of self aggrandizement thrown in. I remember that he was trying to show off to his little gang on Smack Jeeves and they actually had much more community disruption over there because of it. One of their admins ended up quitting over her disgust at the affair.

Has he changed? I'd doubt it. I image he's still inordinately proud of everything he does, still feels he's right to do what he wants regardless of the consequences and other people- any info or details he's collected he will regard as "his" to do with as he likes.
But I'd also imagine that he doesn't want to do anything to jeopardise the site he's built up, and he'd be quite conscientious in maintaining and building it.

There is no way in hell I'd compare him to Volte6 though, not even in the early days. Volte6 was a trail-blazer, innovator and originator.
And "testing security" is a lie. The stuff that he was trying to do on the site was really pretty f-ing bad. If there had have been credit card numbers you can be sure he'd have tried to get 'em.
I'll leave it at that.
Interesting that you're coming out with that- Has he actually tried to justify that behaviour? o_O
Sorry, I forgot this was St. Spurious's Day, where we all exchange playful character assasinations and imply criminal intent before leaving it at that!
Scarf, I'm not assassinating anyone's character, that's not my intent. I'm only relating the direct impression we got from what he did- I didn't even know it was the same person till you confirmed it. I dunno where you got your info, about it but I was there the night he did that and I helped clean up the mess. I'm not trying to hint at anything I just wanted to leave the desciption of his actual activities at that point because I didn't want to get into it all.
I don't dispute that he was most definitely a script kiddie, I was first to use the term if you'll look back :)

I don't want to fall out over anything, but what the boy did was quite malicious, offensive, and extremely thoughtless to all the people's accounts he tried to ruin- and being the old DD stalwart that I am I still feel quite strongly over that sort of thing, so this is why I say what I do. I hope you understand.

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Look in the D&D thread. There are a ot of debates that enedd up amicably

Even if they do get heated most come back to sense in the end.

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His motivation was was vandalisation and destruction, with quite a lot of self aggrandizement thrown in. I remember that he was trying to show off to his little gang on Smack Jeeves and they actually had much more community disruption over there because of it. One of their admins ended up quitting over her disgust at the affair.

Has he changed? I'd doubt it. I image he's still inordinately proud of everything he does, still feels he's right to do what he wants regardless of the consequences and other people- any info or details he's collected he will regard as "his" to do with as he likes.
But I'd also imagine that he doesn't want to do anything to jeopardise the site he's built up, and he'd be quite conscientious in maintaining and building it.

There is no way in hell I'd compare him to Volte6 though, not even in the early days. Volte6 was a trail-blazer, innovator and originator.

Sounds a bit like an anarchic teenager to me. I understand perfectly your position, but I don't recognise the character traits your describing in the Kyo I've known for nearly two years. He's complained more than once about people sucking up to him because he's the site admin - if you were into self aggrandisement I think you'd enjoy that sort of thing. Of course, you need a certain amount of ego to achieve anything.

As for Volte6, he sold up long before I came here so I couldn't possibly compare him to anyone, having never seen the man.

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this is cool. haven't seen so much action on this thread for some time.

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He's complained more than once about people sucking up to him because he's the site admin - if you were into self aggrandisement I think you'd enjoy that sort of thing. Of course, you need a certain amount of ego to achieve anything.
Once you're in a position like that you don't really care about wanting to be in that position any longer, if you get my meaning :)

There's anarchic and then there's actually being mean and wilfully destructive. He wasn't just attacking "Drunk Duck", he was going after individual user accounts. It wasn't good. If we'd wanted to take it that far, he would probably have been criminally liable, especially the way they look at those things today.

I'm afraid impressions stick, some more than others. and that was a pretty bad impression.

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Anyway, enough about that old trash, look at this:



That nasty, crude, crappy badge was in one of those Ebay reccomended items emails to me. On the ebay listing they describe it as super high quality, made to the best specs and all that… but look at it!
It looks like that star was modelled after a rough pencil sketch (not even EVEN ^_^) and the text looks like the Armour Piercing font from Blambot (bet they didn't pay for professional use), and they've just whacked it on without arcing it correctly (so it has those weird slants), and the spacing is all off. I wouldn't want that thing on any bike I had.
-I've designed some metal badge things as \part of my job so I know it's not that tricky.
Heh, perhaps the crudeness is part of the reason they're selling them on Ebay…?

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perhaps they were going for a retro feel.

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perhaps they were going for a retro feel.
They were, but they failed pretty badly there- back when they actually made stuff like that as a matter if course things weren't done roughly done or badly sketched because making stuff out of metal was what they did. And the armour piercing font sort of ruins the attempt completely.

In the old days they either used a simple serif font like Times Roman and all that family or a very thin straight sans-serif font like Avant Garde or Futura. Armour piercing by contrast has weird shapes in it, it's pretty bold and uneven- great for comics, but very shizzy for that sort of thing, especially in a circle. …and all that slanting just shows someone who doesn't know how to set up the font correctly on an arcing path- computer error :)

…Back when stuff like that was really rough was… before industrialisation? maybe the early 1700s? I doubt they're going that retro.

They call their stuff "Royal Enfield" too and yet don't have a crown on anything. They're missing a trick there!

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OMYGODOMYGODOMYGODOMYGOD ozoneocean Know-it-all alert! >_<

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Anyway, enough about that old trash, look at this:


Now you listen here Ozone! That's about as top quality as we get here in Redditch!
I have a very scary uncle that used to work for the Enfield, I am packing him off to sort you out good and proper! :p

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