Hey, this thread is becoming unweildy now- when you comment it doesn't show the previous posts in the posting window and when you post it's starting to jump forward to a page of the thread that doesn't exist yet and claims theres no posts. - not all the time, just when you're near the end of a thread page when posting.
Maybe we should start a new one? :)
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@Oz-
The reason why the page counts are wonky as we get closer to the bottom of the forum page is because whenever person deletes their posts on the forum, it is only soft deleted. The forum still counts those posts toward the total post count and thinks there are more posts than are actually there. It would have been easier to control earlier, but it is a lot more difficult to keep track of which posts were soft deleted in the database.
Wow! It's been a while!
I had to go to the hospital (more like, taken to the hospital)… I lost my apartmet, and I had to track my stuff (there was some mix up, but I found them)…. so it's been fun…
I'm glad to be alive and back in the Duck…
I've tried to read some of the posts in here, some about racisms, profiling, weather, and injuries…
But not all is bad news… I've heard there's a Deadpool movie coming next year…
Ack! Tupapayon! I hate hearing that! I hope you get a case of the good lucks soon!
This post is one of the hardest things I've ever had to post. I'm going to copy paste this from MugenGuild.com
"So I'm going to stop making my comic The Devon Legacy. I'm always split between which hobbies I want to do. MUGEN and my comic. My comic is my bigger passion. But it's just not sustainable as a hobby that I can find enjoyment now that I have a family and less time.
When I was single and worked on it that's pretty much all I did. It was my life. I was thinking about story or writing or practicing my art or making actual pages. That's about it.
Now for almost this entire year I have been working on the comic again. Under the idea that even if it's just 1 page a week I am at least still living my hobby and progressing the story.
But the limited amount of time is making it too stressful. I worry just to meet my deadline. I am not enjoying it now as each page feels like it's work and since I'm not getting a lot of drawing practice either through making more pages or random practice sketches my art is simply not improving and the pages are feeling HARDER to make each day.
To top it off I realized that it's a futile effort at storytelling. The pace is just WAY too slow. I like drawing. But I mostly like it to bring my story to life. I consider myself a writer more than an artist. I'd rather progression be made but I want that progression to look decent too.
I have 7 "seasons" planned. Each needing about 30 issues a season. Each issue will be from 20 - 64 pages long. So to simplify, at a page a day it would take me 210 years to complete the whole story. It'd take 30 years to finish season 1.
Now to add to this: making my pages requires solitude. Or at least to be left alone. It's a very introverted process that does not bring in anyone else. So I am shutting myself away from my child and wife when I work. Which I generally try to do while she is at work and he's at daycare 2 days a week.
But still it's not an experience I can share and it leaks into their time a lot because I rarely finish a page in the time I have available for reasons already mentioned.
So for that reason I decided to hang it up. If I ever get extra money where I can hire an artist I'll come back to it. But this is it. The dream of my comic has to be laid to rest.
On a plus side though this gives me a lot more time to play games again. Something I can share with family! And to work on MUGEN. Which again I can share with my son as he gets older. To play and to learn with.
So I should become more active around here and contributing again. No more splitting my 2 selves. Comic me and MUGEN me.
Thanks for the read. Just needed to air out!"
Now, this time I'm actually announcing it. I won't be disappearing. I'll still be helping out here the best I can and reading/commenting. I'm going to finish this issue because I've been working on it for almost 5 years now and it's so close to being done.
Ozone, feel free to use my PW space for your comic and/or community projects.
This was NOT an easy decision to come to at all -_-
No, no, no, noooooooo!
First someone gets hospitalized and then a couple of posts later JNP is hanging up his pens.
Any other big depressing news? Next thing you know Donald Trump will run for president of the US and the dickhead mayor of NYC will come out against topless photos in Time Square. Oh no.
I have good news: next August 23 is topless day… so anyone who is willing should post topless pictures of themselves, friends, and loved ones… free those boobs… even manboobs…
JNP: it's sad to read you're retiring from making comics… but it's understandable… just don't go too far…
Owch, JNP. I do have a suggestion. Just take a break from comicking and if you decide to come back, do a short, slice of life comic. Maybe about your family. It doesn't have to be a comedy, but it could talk about things like life lessons.
As for solitude, it's not for everyone. I'm alone MOST of the time, so it's something I'm very used to. It's not easy… You need someone to confide in, then it's great to have a support network of some kind. When you don't…
Don't be crazy Bravo! Those things could NEVER happen!
Tupapayon: I'm not intending on disappearing like I have in the past. I'll be right here. Looking over your shoulder. Like always. Creeping. Peeping :}
Lonnehart: Thanks, but nah. Devon Legacy is all I ever wanted to make. I'm not into strips and I don't want to come up with a short story of anykind. I'll keep writing it. Maybe release it as a sort of Light Novel that is mostly text but has images for more important scemes? Not sure yet. But the story will go on in my mind.
Man JNP, you should just do a special page like once a month or once every two months. :)
Working on a creative legacy like that is important. Even just writing it out as prose and including a few illustrations is a good idea.
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Yay, boob day, I will post mine right here in the thread on the 23rd!
Never played Flappy Bird, but I watched a REACT Channel show where some kids were playing a game similar to it… a game I just downloaded called Swing Copters.
The game is pretty challenging, but I'm failing to see the frustration factor everyone's been talking about. In fact, the game is so challenging that after an hour of playing I could only manage a score of 6…
Funny thing is this… I scored that with my LEFT hand, but I'm RIGHT HANDED! That is so strange…
@Lonne- Submarine and helicopter were the original versions of that game that the Flappy bird areshole ripped off, adding his stolen Mario world graphics to it.
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@JN- you're right, comic hosts aren't the best for that, but it could work is it looks good enough. Too many people do walls of text badly. There IS a good wayto do it, I mean look at magazines and books of all kinds, graphic artists specialise in making blocks of text look fantastic.
You could also do a book version to distribute as an online thing through Amazon. Offer it free or at a nominal cost like $1 and people will donwload it- free is great because that'd make them want to get into your comic (as long as you had links to it and such on your author profile).
I just had a nasty, nasty dream.
It began with this horrible old man masturbating over a photo in an old abandoned warehouse near the ocean. This guy comes along and befirends him in order to buy a sword he has cheaply… after staying with the old bastard a while he does buy it, for $150 and goes away.
Years later the young man feels guilty and goes back to stay with the old bastard. Tge young guy is a police detective now. His captain wonders where he is and finds him with the old guy. Tge old guy and tge captain share a strange connection. The young guy goes missing mysteriously.
The police captain takes his family to see the old guy. The old guy reveals some of his past. He's the captain's grandfather. He fought in a war in the late 1800s… He's crazy. He yrained the captain in wilderness survival and is disappointed his family has gone soft and lives in the city… he likes knives. He likes hurting people. The captain knows…
The family are all driving away together the old guy is in the back seat with the young boy. And suddenly I am that young boy.
He has knives. I con them all away from him. He gets crazier and crazier in his talk.
The car breaks down and we end up back at the oceanside watehouse. It turns out the captain is crazy too. Things happen and the young boy is in the clutches of the horrible old man. I'm not him anymore, I'm an older by watching, trying to help. The old guy starts torturing the boy, jabbing him with things. So I hit him in the head with various heavy objects, breaking bottles and stuff over his forehead. But he likes that. Then he starts stabbing things into the boy's head… it's gross and terrible. I try harder to concuss him but it's not working and the captain is the the background ranting.
The boy whose conciousness I'm riding knows that he'll be next and he can't take it anymore. He makes a running jumo for a closed window overlooking the dark ocean. He smashes through painfully and falls down into the the night, escaping into the stormy sea.
Now that was so awful Ihad to weite it out. There was more detail but I was being breif. That was a VERY strange dream for me. Normally I don't dream like a movie, I have direct control of my character at all times. And I would never, ever escape like that, I'd normally kill the bad guy, no matter what the nightmare logic wants- I twist the dream reality to my will and kill the bad guy anyway, unless the dream quits because of that and forces me to wake up nefore I can fi ish the job.
Horrible dream!
Oz,
On August 12th, I had a very strange dream encounter that I had to write down immediately after waking up just before 3:00 AM.
In my dream, I was standing in my room and the door was shut. I placed my hands on the door when I felt someone or something pushing back and trying to push the door open. So I pushed my body against the door, but through the opening, I saw a person's hands coming through and holding a weapon. I tried to reach for the phone on my bed to call for help. At one point in the dream I had access to a kitchen knife and when the attacker tried to push the door open a second time, I used the knife to disarm him by cutting each hand, first the left and then the right. After that, the door stopped being pushed from the other side.
Later on in the dream I was walking around town and I saw a person with two giant white gauze strips around each hand and it turned out to be the attacker. The person's name was LAIKA and we both apologized for the misunderstanding in the confrontation earlier.
It was the first dream that I recall using a weapon to defend myself and potentially used physical harm to hurt someone. Maybe your dream has something to do with the recent sword purchases or sword hilt fixes you have been working on in recent weeks.
@Ozone: Wow. I knew the graphics were ripped from somewhere, but at least now I know the game is a clone. Funny thing about clones… Minecraft is a clone of another game, yet it sold for 2.5 billion…
A video game clone seems pretty vague in definition Swing Copters and Flappy Bird are some of the most blatant ones which use graphics lifted from other games. Most clones copy game mechanics from more more popular games. Nowadays it's hard to be original, so most games seem to hang their success from their stories and artwork.
edit: I checked up on Swing Copters. The game mechanics are similar to another game called Bog Racers, but game mechanics can't really be copyrighted. Patented, yes (Square did that with their Active Time Battle System for one of their Final Fantasy RPGs). According to the creator he was making the game in Febuary 2014, and the March issue of Rolling Stones Magazine has a screenshot of the game in it. Still, the graphics look familiar to me…
It's a good thing genres can't be copyrighted or creativity and innovation would go down the drain. Though I'm pretty sure some company out there must've made the attempt at copyrighting or trademarking a genre…
Downloaded a game called Fallout Shelter. It's from the same makers as the Fallout and Elder Scrolls series of games. You get to manage a fallout shelter and keep its residents happy and productive (power the place, food and water production, have the dwellers reproduce to increase the population) while protecting the place from raiders and other monsters. I'm glad it's a simulatin game (though it does have cards which you can but don't have to buy). And you can send one out into the wasteland to gather supplies and other things (though it could possibly die if you don't pay attention to it).
Reminds me of old films of the '60s where fathers built bomb shelters under their back yards….
Flappy bird THE most unoriginal game I've ever seen, I don't know if there's one part of it the guy didn't steel from somewhere else. He probably coded it in about 3 hours.
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@ Kawaii- the sword part in the very begining of my dream was related to the sword purchase, but the rest is unique and nasty. I don't want a dream like that ever again!
The cutting hands part in our dream - I hate injuring people in dreams. It takes a LOT of pushing by circumstance in order to make that happen for me so I can do it in spite of the revulsion and horror, especially if it involes cutting with knives or swords.
@Ozone: I agree with you about Flappy Bird's graphics. Definitely lifted from Mario's games. But I'm starting to think that Swing Copter's graphics may be original as I can't find anything that resembles them. The gameplay reminds me of a game I played on the Nintendo DSi called Paper Plane (I think), only your copter on a head is less controllable and it never goes straight up.
And then there's a reason for the high difficulty… the same reason old school arcade games were so difficult yet so addicting… for arcade games, it was so you want to keep playing so you paid another quarter. For Swing Copters, every time you fail an ad shows up at the top of the screen…
Hm… current Swing Copters highscore: 21
As for Fallout Shelter, I can see myself playing that game at work since the only reason it needs an online connection is so you can buy card lunchboxes (the cards reward you with anything from resources for your shelter to items to leveled NPCs who can live in that shelter). Otherwise no connection to the internet needed. :)
ozoneocean wrote:Pretty much every game out there now uses mechanics from old games. You could say mechanic wise that there are no more "original" games. It's in the way those mechanics are presented in a game. That's the reason why it's so hard to get a patent for your game mechanics. They're all too common. Square lucked out when they got their patent because apparently no one created a battle system in RPGS that incorporated realtime (but I think that patent is now expired).
I don't just mean graphics- There were very, very old games that exactly that mechanic. I mean the one colour syle of games- the graphics in one colour against the black of the screen :)
So Flappy Bird may be an unoriginal game, but apparently everyone liked it anyway. I'm just surprised that Nintendo didn't even think of suing Flappy Bird's creator for copyright infringement regarding the graphics (Nintendo even said they never considered suing the guy).
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/10/nintendo-flappy-bird/
There's one "positive" thing that happened with Flappy Bird… thanks to all the cheap clones of the game the app stores are working on policing their stores to knock out those clones. As for the creator of the game, he wound up in the same boat that the creator of Minecraft found himself in… they had no intention of creating a megahit of a game, and they ended up overwhelmed. Which was one of the reasons why Microsoft was able to buy the company that makes Minecraft (EA wanted to buy it too, but Mr. Notch didn't bite on their offer, considering his attitude towards that company)…
Genejoke wrote:That's a really good idea!
@JNP, you can stll get your art fix, contribute the odd page for heroes alliance and we are the duck. much less pressure.
I'll deinitely do that from time to time once I finish this issue! I wonder if I contribute enough pages if they'd mind a character from my comic joining so there could be SOME kind of comic legacy left behind for them!
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