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Tantz's suggestion of having them both the same with just the rude bits omitted from the non-rude version wouldn't mean that much extra work for the compilers because it's virtually the same job both times. It's just cut and paste basically.

It'd be interesting to see which sells more!

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That said, you could also simply have two different teams working on each book?


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To sell them or it (depending on how many we do), I propose we do it directly from DD and use paypal so we don't have to worry about fees that third parties charge.
We could also put it on Amazon or other places for those who need to use other payment methods but the main place should be DD and paypal as the payment method.

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Ozoneocean wrote:

It'd be interesting to see which sells more!

I would probably buy both versions for several reasons. Mostly, to help support the effort and fund raising.

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I have a personal dislike for "work-safe" and any permutation as far as terms, and the absolutely arbitrary definition of it always tends to make the classification arguable at best.

That said, I would be willing to try and produce something for a publication that was uncensored, even though my work wasn't really explicit at all last time. I have never liked or agreed with censorship of art, personally speaking, and it's always more impressive to me and elicits much more feelings of support and identification when especially a creative community stands against censorship.

I couldn't let my work appear in a censored publication, because I feel that would damage my reputation as an opponent of that very thing.

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Drawing black rectangles over naughty bits or defining an area and pixelating it wouldn't take days.

Just saying, Paypal still operates a "no smut" policy, very Puritanical, but private companies can do as they damn well please.

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hushicho wrote:
I have a personal dislike for "work-safe" and any permutation as far as terms, and the absolutely arbitrary definition of it always tends to make the classification arguable at best.

That said, I would be willing to try and produce something for a publication that was uncensored, even though my work wasn't really explicit at all last time. I have never liked or agreed with censorship of art, personally speaking, and it's always more impressive to me and elicits much more feelings of support and identification when especially a creative community stands against censorship.

I couldn't let my work appear in a censored publication, because I feel that would damage my reputation as an opponent of that very thing.

Yes, I think a few people would feel the same.

My thought would be to have a version that is up to and including M rated comics and possibly a second version that would include any adult rated stories should any be made for it. I imagine most potential buyers are over 18 anyway and this would make it easy for those who prefer to avoid adult comics to bypass them.

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And to charge a few dollars more for the fatter version with those extra stories.

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Premium rate for adult content?

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Genejoke wrote:
Premium rate for adult content?

I don't see why not, as you'd be getting more pages for your money. The price hike could be based on how many extra stories were included in the adult version. Put everything together as for a single anthology, then just whip out the adult content and amend the contents page accordingly for the non adult version. I don't think adult creators should be asked to censor their work or have it censored on their behalf.

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I'm interested in doing this. What's the details? Is there a post somewhere, like how many pages, does it have to be exclusive to the anthology, etc?

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It's still at discussion stage so no solid details yet.

There wont be a minimum page count due to gag strips and the like. Should there be a maximum? I don't imagine it will be an issue.

Exclusivity? I think some will be required for sure. What does everyone think?

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I'd like to hold to the sixteen page maximum of the last anthology. That way creators finish and submit their projects. Go too long and nothing gets done. Short stories, short-shorts, gags but no long drawn out "it's all about me escapades"

Someone wants more than sixteen pages: submit another story. ;)

Please keep it short and simple. We all have our own comics that we can go on and on to no good purpose. But here should be tight story telling. No more than sixteen pages.

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bravo1102 wrote:

Please keep it short and simple. We all have our own comics that we can go on and on to no good purpose. But here should be tight story telling. No more than sixteen pages.

I would agree with this. Sixteen pages is already a huge amount by average anthology standards.

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It's also a lot of work, so I can't imagine it being an issue, but to be on the safe side perhaps a maximum of 16 is called for.

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Genejoke wrote:
Exclusivity? I think some will be required for sure. What does everyone think?
Authors can agree to give 1 year's publication rights to the antho. Meaning it doesn't appear anywhere else. At the end of that year the rights are returned to authors. Do as you wish with it then. For most online magazines that's a fairly standard arrangement.

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I am curious as to the status of this project.

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I'm not aware of any discussion on this happening elsewhere Unk, such as in the Discord, so failing that I don't think anything has been set in stone yet.
I suggest we use the same standard US page dimensions as the previous anthology. There doesn't seem to be much call for a specific theme this time.

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Yeah there's not a lot of talk atm, I was fairly busy helping with other stuff. I think it's time to start pushing things along a bit.

I think we are sort of there with the content elements, a base version and one with adult content for those who want that.

Theme is up in the air. I'm leaning to no theme or something vague that could be interpreted in many ways by creators.

An upper limit of 16 pages was mentioned and seems sensible.

Dpatz mentioned asking contributors to agree to a year exclusivity, which I think is sensible.

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Ironscarf wrote:
I'm not aware of any discussion on this happening elsewhere Unk, such as in the Discord, so failing that I don't think anything has been set in stone yet.
I suggest we use the same standard US page dimensions as the previous anthology. There doesn't seem to be much call for a specific theme this time.

For dimensions I was thinking the same, I believe they used the Kablam template as a guide.

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Never done this before, but i'd be interested in contributing once the theme (or lack thereof) is decided on. How's it work exactly? You just draw a comic within the given guidelines and send it in?

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I'm going to pitch a theme just to tie everything together. The last one was The Horror Anthology. So a very broad, very simple theme or genre just to somehow bring very disparate elements together.

It could be romance. Anything from puppy love to the trust shared between an aged couple and everything in between.

Or it could be greed. Any of the ancient deadly sins are great themes for a collection.

Or it could something as simple as history. Anything so long as the setting is not a fantasy or the present day. And yes, there are plenty of highly detailed historical comics with anthropomorphic casts. Or conversely fantastic creatures. Any tale about a fantastic creature real or imagined.

It could be like a writing exercise based on a particular situation or single line. See different takes on "It was a dark and stormy night–," "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" and so on.

A theme can be so broad that it can encompass all types of stories and genres. Something universal like an emotion and feeling, a drive or even some very basic thing. Twelve stories about trees. A tree figures in each one as some part of the story more than just a background.

Take for it for what you will, just throwing it out there. A theme doesn't have to be viewed as a limitation but as starting point or a destination or a journey or even just a stroll from the kitchen to the bedroom. Journeys could be a theme as well. Need never go anywhere but what a trip it was.

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bravo1102 wrote:
I'm going to pitch a theme just to tie everything together. The last one was The Horror Anthology. So a very broad, very simple theme or genre just to somehow bring very disparate elements together.

It could be romance. Anything from puppy love to the trust shared between an aged couple and everything in between.

Or it could be greed. Any of the ancient deadly sins are great themes for a collection.

Or it could something as simple as history. Anything so long as the setting is not a fantasy or the present day. And yes, there are plenty of highly detailed historical comics with anthropomorphic casts. Or conversely fantastic creatures. Any tale about a fantastic creature real or imagined.

It could be like a writing exercise based on a particular situation or single line. See different takes on "It was a dark and stormy night–," "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" and so on.

A theme can be so broad that it can encompass all types of stories and genres. Something universal like an emotion and feeling, a drive or even some very basic thing. Twelve stories about trees. A tree figures in each one as some part of the story more than just a background.

Take for it for what you will, just throwing it out there. A theme doesn't have to be viewed as a limitation but as starting point or a destination or a journey or even just a stroll from the kitchen to the bedroom. Journeys could be a theme as well. Need never go anywhere but what a trip it was.

Well said.

perhaps have some suggestions and a vote?

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How about dreams as a theme?

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Sounds good! Not sure if we're voting now - I'll have to ponder it for a minute because these themes are all good ideas.

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